Comments on: Welcome to the People’s Congress http://peoplescongress.org People's Congress: We the people = YOU! Thu, 23 Feb 2012 03:30:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Johnmulkins http://peoplescongress.org/#comment-198 Johnmulkins Thu, 23 Feb 2012 03:30:00 +0000 http://jdcogmon.net/pcongress/?page_id=2#comment-198  Agreed.  Working on the specific soulutions will be fun and interesting. I would scour orgs like the Center for Media and Democracy, Mediawatch and others for their suggestions, and encourage them all to help us in drafting the specific solutions we will eventually vote on.  Agreed.  Working on the specific soulutions will be fun and interesting. I would scour orgs like the Center for Media and Democracy, Mediawatch and others for their suggestions, and encourage them all to help us in drafting the specific solutions we will eventually vote on.

]]> By: Johnmulkins http://peoplescongress.org/#comment-197 Johnmulkins Thu, 23 Feb 2012 03:28:00 +0000 http://jdcogmon.net/pcongress/?page_id=2#comment-197 TruthMerchant, thanks for this post. I hope it gets a lot of reads. I'll point out you use the word "must" in your last sentence, so I am wondering if that is also an irrational conclusion. :-))  When the words "must" or "only" are used, and it also seems irrational, please point to the specific usage and we can address your concern that something we are presenting may be irrational.  If you have better language, we are happy to include it.  Again, this takes a little time because we are all volunteer at this point.  Simply send us the redraft and we will put it up for consideration anytime.  Thanks. TruthMerchant,
thanks for this post. I hope it gets a lot of reads. I’ll point out you use the word “must” in your last sentence, so I am wondering if that is also an irrational conclusion. :-) )  When the words “must” or “only” are used, and it also seems irrational, please point to the specific usage and we can address your concern that something we are presenting may be irrational.  If you have better language, we are happy to include it.  Again, this takes a little time because we are all volunteer at this point.  Simply send us the redraft and we will put it up for consideration anytime.  Thanks.

]]> By: Lynda Lawson-Usher http://peoplescongress.org/#comment-195 Lynda Lawson-Usher Wed, 22 Feb 2012 05:32:00 +0000 http://jdcogmon.net/pcongress/?page_id=2#comment-195 While I agree many on both side need to go among the long term "career politicians" who OWN the House and Senate..Some like Bernie Sanders and a few others must stay. However Ben Nelson of NE who wants to take birth control away from women, MUST GO regardless of if he is a democrat or not. We need politicians who vote for OUR agenda not the oldest member of the HOuse of Senate who ruins the hopes of those we elect and forces them to play games to get anything done that we send them to Washington to do. Many people elected these days have to be checked into to see WHO sponsoirs them. If the 1% is supporting them and their largest donor, this should be seen as a RED FLAG to NOT elect this person. The Koch brothers have been buying Governors for a long time. They must be stopped, they don't even live in Wisconsin and look what they have done via Walker!. While I agree many on both side need to go among the long term “career politicians” who OWN the House and Senate..Some like Bernie Sanders and a few others must stay. However Ben Nelson of NE who wants to take birth control away from women, MUST GO regardless of if he is a democrat or not. We need politicians who vote for OUR agenda not the oldest member of the HOuse of Senate who ruins the hopes of those we elect and forces them to play games to get anything done that we send them to Washington to do. Many people elected these days have to be checked into to see WHO sponsoirs them. If the 1% is supporting them and their largest donor, this should be seen as a RED FLAG to NOT elect this person. The Koch brothers have been buying Governors for a long time. They must be stopped, they don’t even live in Wisconsin and look what they have done via Walker!.

]]> By: Lynda Lawson-Usher http://peoplescongress.org/#comment-194 Lynda Lawson-Usher Wed, 22 Feb 2012 05:27:00 +0000 http://jdcogmon.net/pcongress/?page_id=2#comment-194 I would like to see more FCC enforcements in media for TRUTH to the Public, the largest divide in America is caused media caused misinformation, and the literal lies pushed by politicians who want to fool people, and unfortunately these people lie to the public and many don't seem to know the difference. Many fail to see Politicians LIE all the time.,.This must end and so media ownership must be broken up and NOT controlled by Roger Aile's or Rupert Murdoch, or any one person to control. Owning the media is to own the message people heard. Look how media tried to condemn the 99% movement!. I would like to see more FCC enforcements in media for TRUTH to the Public, the largest divide in America is caused media caused misinformation, and the literal lies pushed by politicians who want to fool people, and unfortunately these people lie to the public and many don’t seem to know the difference. Many fail to see Politicians LIE all the time.,.This must end and so media ownership must be broken up and NOT controlled by Roger Aile’s or Rupert Murdoch, or any one person to control. Owning the media is to own the message people heard. Look how media tried to condemn the 99% movement!.

]]> By: Anonymous http://peoplescongress.org/#comment-193 Anonymous Tue, 21 Feb 2012 00:27:00 +0000 http://jdcogmon.net/pcongress/?page_id=2#comment-193 Words like "must" and "only" are not part of rational dialogue.  I would agree that "protest" is not going to solve anything.  But imprinting an ideological frame on all discussion is out of place at this point.   We must focus on that in which we are in agreement and leave the labels and the resulting infrastructure to discussion. Words like “must” and “only” are not part of rational dialogue.  I would agree that “protest” is not going to solve anything.  But imprinting an ideological frame on all discussion is out of place at this point.   We must focus on that in which we are in agreement and leave the labels and the resulting infrastructure to discussion.

]]> By: Johnmulkins http://peoplescongress.org/#comment-192 Johnmulkins Tue, 07 Feb 2012 07:04:00 +0000 http://jdcogmon.net/pcongress/?page_id=2#comment-192 Joyeck.  As founder, I do not see the People's Congress as a protest, but as  a direct assault on the very corrupt forces which you suggest rightfully that we should replace. The failure of Americans to remember and embrace their rightful duty and power to act as the legitimate rulers and owners of the Nation is what concerns me about your response.  Inventing a new system which will live in the shadow of an empire like the United States, does nothing to address the real threats of nuclear armaments and climate change, and the run away power of multinational corporations.  We all need to come to terms with what "We the People" means.  If Americans can own their rightful place as the ultimate authority OVER government, then we can also transform the economy into one which is more just.  That is certainly my longer term goal personally, but until the corruption of power is contained, I see little hope of a new paradigm replacing the current one.  My opinion, and one which I hope you will consider further.  Joyeck.  As founder, I do not see the People’s Congress as a protest, but as  a direct assault on the very corrupt forces which you suggest rightfully that we should replace. The failure of Americans to remember and embrace their rightful duty and power to act as the legitimate rulers and owners of the Nation is what concerns me about your response.  Inventing a new system which will live in the shadow of an empire like the United States, does nothing to address the real threats of nuclear armaments and climate change, and the run away power of multinational corporations.  We all need to come to terms with what “We the People” means.  If Americans can own their rightful place as the ultimate authority OVER government, then we can also transform the economy into one which is more just.  That is certainly my longer term goal personally, but until the corruption of power is contained, I see little hope of a new paradigm replacing the current one.  My opinion, and one which I hope you will consider further. 

]]> By: John Mulkins http://peoplescongress.org/#comment-188 John Mulkins Fri, 20 Jan 2012 23:49:00 +0000 http://jdcogmon.net/pcongress/?page_id=2#comment-188 We will be making a list of Occupies that endorse the People's Congress and will be putting it on our web site any day now.  Please let us know if your Occupy does endorse this call to action and we will include your group on the list. :-))  Occupy is Bee You Tea Full! We will be making a list of Occupies that endorse the People’s Congress and will be putting it on our web site any day now.  Please let us know if your Occupy does endorse this call to action and we will include your group on the list. :-) )  Occupy is Bee You Tea Full!

]]> By: Anonymous http://peoplescongress.org/#comment-187 Anonymous Fri, 13 Jan 2012 08:52:00 +0000 http://jdcogmon.net/pcongress/?page_id=2#comment-187 Mary, thanks for the connection.  As Cornell West and others have said, we need to change the system.  The issue of sovereignty is difficult for many people, but it seems Occupiers "get it"!  It's great to know you are ready to take this on. You can be in on our groups e-mails if you lke, just sign up for the newsletter, let me know, and you'll be in better contact re developments.  Lots coming up so stay tuned. Mary, thanks for the connection.  As Cornell West and others have said, we need to change the system.  The issue of sovereignty is difficult for many people, but it seems Occupiers “get it”!  It’s great to know you are ready to take this on. You can be in on our groups e-mails if you lke, just sign up for the newsletter, let me know, and you’ll be in better contact re developments.  Lots coming up so stay tuned.

]]> By: Anonymous http://peoplescongress.org/#comment-186 Anonymous Thu, 12 Jan 2012 06:42:00 +0000 http://jdcogmon.net/pcongress/?page_id=2#comment-186 Hi John.  Not sure how "skilled activists" translates into "more of the same" for you, but you are welcome to draw your own conclusions. There is a deeper level to all this than you might first extrapolate.  This is about the sovereignty of the American People.  It is obviously not likely that a fully functioning "People's Congress" will emerge out of the various movements gaining unity in America today, but it is possible to begin the process of giving real power back to the People by engaging Americans in a process which addresses the fundamental issue of self governance:  Sovereignty. A mock session of the current Congress would have to include the many corporate sponsors which control Congress, so it is incorrect to refer to this effort as a "mock congress"  It is a gathering of Americans who are interested in passing legislation which will transform the current system into one which is truly representational. The success of this effort depends on the kind of support it receives, just as any reform movement does. The "legislation" will be on line for all Americans to read.  Members of the "People's Congress" will be either nominated or voted in, it depends on how "We the People" decide to do it.  In any case, the "legislation" will be written in layman's terms, so I do not think it will be hard to understand. Voting out the status quo is fine, but it appears we have very little time to make some very large changes both in terms of our liberties and our natural security.  There are many issues which are becoming urgent.  If we do not step up as Americans and demand true representation, then how will we as Americans ever solve the multiple problems we are facing? If you would like to sit in the People's Congress, please let us know.  I would very much like to know your voice is being heard and represented.  And, as I've always said, if there is a better way, I'm all ears.  Your suggestions as to how to fine tune our approach are more than welcome. This link came up with your e-mail.  http://peoplescongress2012.org/index.php/about/ We are wondering if you can shed any light on the connection if any you may have with the site. Thanks again, John Mulkins, founder. Hi John.  Not sure how “skilled activists” translates into “more of the same” for you, but you are welcome to draw your own conclusions. There is a deeper level to all this than you might first extrapolate.  This is about the sovereignty of the American People.  It is obviously not likely that a fully functioning “People’s Congress” will emerge out of the various movements gaining unity in America today, but it is possible to begin the process of giving real power back to the People by engaging Americans in a process which addresses the fundamental issue of self governance:  Sovereignty.

A mock session of the current Congress would have to include the many corporate sponsors which control Congress, so it is incorrect to refer to this effort as a “mock
congress”  It is a gathering of Americans who are interested in passing legislation which will transform the current system into one which is truly representational. The success of this effort depends on the kind of support it receives, just as any reform movement does.

The “legislation” will be on line for all Americans to read.  Members of the “People’s Congress” will be either nominated or voted in, it depends on how “We the People” decide to do it.  In any case, the “legislation” will be written in layman’s terms, so I do not think it will be hard to understand.

Voting out the status quo is fine, but it appears we have very little time to make some very large changes both in terms of our liberties and our natural security.  There are many issues which are becoming urgent.  If we do not step up as Americans and demand true representation, then how will we as Americans ever solve the multiple problems we are facing?

If you would like to sit in the People’s Congress, please let us know.  I would very much like to know your voice is being heard and represented.  And, as I’ve always said, if there is a better way, I’m all ears.  Your suggestions as to how to fine tune our approach are more than welcome.

This link came up with your e-mail. 
http://peoplescongress2012.org/index.php/about/
We are wondering if you can shed any light on the connection if any you may have with the site.

Thanks again,

John Mulkins, founder.

]]> By: John Everman http://peoplescongress.org/#comment-185 John Everman Thu, 12 Jan 2012 04:56:00 +0000 http://jdcogmon.net/pcongress/?page_id=2#comment-185 Skilled Activits? Sounds like more of the same. Presenting a mock session of Congress with people voting on generalized notions of reform is like Congress voting on legislation they don't read, (which is usually the case i.e. Patriot Act, National Defense Authorizaion Act of 2011). Look what our illustrius leaders gave us when they passed McCain-Feingold. My opinion is that you might want to fine-tune your approaches. What we really need is to vote out the status quo, an anti-Incumbent vote; i.e.career politicians across the board; Republican and Democrat. Regardless of what anyone wants from Congress, nothing will ever change as long as we keep voting in the Party Machine Congress vs a Real People's Congress. Skilled Activits? Sounds like more of the same. Presenting a mock session of Congress with people voting on generalized notions of reform is like Congress voting on legislation they don’t read, (which is usually the case i.e. Patriot Act, National Defense Authorizaion Act of 2011). Look what our illustrius leaders gave us when they passed McCain-Feingold. My opinion is that you might want to fine-tune your approaches.

What we really need is to vote out the status quo, an anti-Incumbent vote; i.e.career politicians across the board; Republican and Democrat. Regardless of what anyone wants from Congress, nothing will ever change as long as we keep voting in the Party Machine Congress vs a Real People’s Congress.

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